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Laptop GPU TGP ( Wattage ) – What is it? How important is it?

The number one MOST IMPORTANT SINGLE SPEC in a gaming laptop is the laptop GPU TGP ( can also be called laptop GPU Wattage ).

Most websites call it TDP instead of the TGP.  The correct term is TGP.

The idea is the same though:

The higher the TGP or TDP, whatever you wanna call it, the higher the power limit, the higher the number of watts going into the graphics card and the higher the performance.

Makes sense right?

What is GPU TGP ? What’s the difference between TGP and TDP ?

TGP stands for Total graphics power: the total amount of power that goes into the whole graphics card board as shown below.

That’s what manufacturer’s list on their websites when you check out a laptop’s description or when you check the official PDF specification file of gaming laptop.

TDP (Thermal Design Parameter or Power) is basically how much power goes into the graphics card chip
shown above.

TDP is a useful term for engineering purposes but not so useful when you shop for laptops.

Note: We’ll use TGP and Wattage to mean the same thing

Again…

The idea is the same…

More TGP or TDP = More Power into the graphics = Higher gaming performance = More framerates or higher settings

Min and Max TGP on Common GPUs

GPU Minimum TGP Maximum TGP
3060 85W 130W
3070 85W 140W
3080 85W 165W

The table above is probably the most useful piece of information you can get if you are newbie to gaming laptop’s GPUs.

Just beware of the differences in wattage ( or TGP) when you buy a laptop because even a little goes a LONG LONG way when it comes to performance.

What TGP is Good for a given a GPU?

If you are after high performance, you want to avoid TGPs that are too low for a given GPU.

In other words, GPUs with TGPs that are outrun by “cheaper” and “weaker” GPUs as in the case of the 3060RTX vs 3070RTX 115W.

Before we go through the benchmarks you have to understand the concept of dynamic boost: 

What is dynamic boost?

Dynamic boost will automatically raise the power consumption of a GPU (basically increase GPU wattage) to increase performance WHEN needed.

It’s usually NOT done for games that are not graphically demanding like League of Legends, Dota 2 and so on UNLESS you set resolutions to 1440p or 4k.

Notice how the 3060RTX (115+15W dynamic boost) hovers around 115W on 1080p Call of Duty.

But goes up to 130W (maximum wattage) if you set resolution to 1440p:

At much higher resolutions or on games with much more graphics like Call of Duty and Battlefield V, maximum wattage will be activated. 

That doesn’t mean every laptop can dynamically boost to maximum wattages. 

A 3060RTX will not always dynamically boost to 130W. That will depend on its maximum TGP.

Thus a 3060RTX with a maximum TGP of 100W can only dynamically boost to 100W and no more.  

This would be usually be represented by:

3060RTX 115W(Base)+15W(Dynamic Boost) = 130W (Maximum Wattage)

With that said…

Let’s see some benchmarks so we can draw some conclusions on GPU wattages.

How much difference does GPU Wattage make?

It depends on the game but the difference can be enourmous in most cases. We are just going to take battlefield V as an example.

a) 3060RTX 80W vs 3060RTX 100W vs 3060RTX 130W

 

But you can check other dozens of games and benchmarks on youtube. The one we chose is here.

What’s interesting here is that the first laptop with the 3060RTX has a Ryzen 9 5900HS for the CPU which is WAY WAY faster than both the Core i7 10870H and the Core i7 10750H.

In other words, the FPS difference between the 3060RTX (80W) and the 130W would be much much bigger if it weren’t for the disparity in CPU speeds. 

*Note that NONE of these laptops have a MUX Switch. If you don’t know what that is, you can read it here but basically there’s no other performance advantage between the three laptops. They all have the same RAM, no MUX Switch,  same hard Drive.

b) 3060RTX 130W vs 3070RTX GPUs

This is a much more interesting comparison.

As we all know the 3070RTX and the 3080RTX are way more expensive than the 3060RTX.

Obviously, a high wattage 3070RTX (130W) will outperform a 3060RTX (130W).

But…

How does the 3060RTX 130W stand out against the more expensive low wattage 3070RTX GPUs 115W and 100W and so on…?

1080p Gaming

 3060RTX (130W) video is here . 3070RTX (115W) here.

What’s super interesting here is that the laptop on the right , the 3070RTX has a Ryzen 9 5900HS and the 3060RTX laptop only has a Ryzen 7 5800HS a significantly less faster CPU.

What does this tell you?

Exactly what we said at the beginning of this post: GPU Wattage or TGP is the single most important factor for high performance.

Now some people may claim that the difference can’t be that big there must be some settings changed or the maps are different so one may be more hardware demanding than the other.

That’s true but the one that’s more hardware demanding in this comparison is the one where the 3060RTX because it is sort of an open field where you have more stuff to render.

MUX Switch: What it’s true though is that the 3060RTX has a sort of an advantage over the 3070RTX: it has a MUX Switch which increases performance by 15%. You can read more about it on my MUX Switch post here.

Regardless, a 3060RTX 130W will outperform low wattage 3070RTX (115W and below) and even some 3080RTX as you will see soon through other benchmarks at least for 1080p gaming. If we test 1440p resolution, the results may change

Now the question becomes…

 

c) 3080RTX vs 3070RTX  vs 3060RTX (All 80W + 15 W)

All three laptops above have the exact same hardware, they’re the same model so they have the same CPU, same RAM and so on.

Game 3060RTX (80W) 3070RTX(80W+15W) 3080RTX(80W+15W)
Cyberpunk 45 54 53
Watch Dogs 45 54 59
Dirt 5 72 86 92
Assasin’s Creed 64 66 71
Horizon Zero Dawn 68 78 81
Read Dead Redemption 59 66 72
MS Flight Stimulator 39 39 37
Fortnite 113 130 139
Call of Duty 99 97 101

The 3060RTX does not boost to 95W as the 3070RTX and the 3080RTX do. So there’s going to be an obviousy difference on most games. However, even so the difference is NOT abysmal for 1080p gaming and for games like Call of Duty, there’s no performance gain over the 3060 RTX

d) 3060RTX 130W vs 3070RTX 100W  at 1080P Resolution

Now we want to test at what wattage does going for a 3070RTX becomes useful for 1080p Gaming.  

Game 3060RTX (130W) 3070RTX(100W)
Cyberpunk 51 57
Watch Dogs 55 64
Hitman 119 130
Assasin’s Creed 62 67
Horizon Zero Dawn 71 79
Read Dead Redemption 49 55
The Witcher 84 90
GTA V 58 64

For this benchmark to be accurate you want to only include graphically demanding games that will force either GPU to go full wattage.

The 3070RTX slightly outperforms the 3060RTX on most games and the difference is minuscule on some games like Witcher and GTA. .

100W 3070RTX slightly outperforms the 130W 3060RTX. Meaning you cannot settle for anything lower than a 100W 3070RTX and you may want to higher as the performance difference is only about 5-10fps on every game.
 

e) 3070RTX 140W vs 3080RTX 110W at (1440p) resolution

The video below contains both 1080p and 1440p. We’re going to use the 1440p benchmarks because that’ll force both GPUs to go full wattage as 1440p is more hardware demanding.

Game 3070RTX (140W) 3080RTX (110W)
Death Standing 146 129
Hitman III 88 80
Horizon 68 58
Control 62 55
Call of Duty: Blacks OP 94 82
Resident Evil 3 119 107
Cyberpunk 48 44
MAFIA 96 88
Hitman 2 92 80
Red Dead Redemption II 49 42
Call of Duty: Warzone 145 133
Metro Exodus 52 48

The 3070RTX (140W) outperforms the 3080RTX(110W) in every single game tested. Now that may not be a big “50 fps difference” but considering that this is 1440p gaming, +10fps is a significant gain.

Thus we can say 3080RTX is only worth the extra cash (assuming you’re after gaming performance) once you go past 110W. At least 125W I’d say. Otherwise a much cheaper 3070RTX running at full wattage will be a better choice. 
 

Conclusions

  1. Laptops with 3080RTX GPUs are only worth the money if you get them running at ~125W or more.
  2. Laptops with 3060RTX GPUs (130W) will give you the best bang for your buck if you game at 1080p resolution mostly.
  3. Laptops with 3070RTX (125+15W=140W) are faster tha MOST 3080RTX laptops UNLESS the latter runs on wattages higher than 115W.
  4. Laptops with 3060RTX(130W) DEFINITELY outrun 3080RTX(80W) and 3070RTX(80W)

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Miguel Salas
Miguel Salas
I am physicist and electrical engineer. My knowledge in computer software and hardware stems for my years spent doing research in optics and photonics devices and running simulations through various programming languages. My goal was to work for the quantum computing research team at IBM but Im now working with Astrophysical Simulations through Python. Most of the science related posts are written by me, the rest have different authors but I edited the final versions to fit the site's format.

Miguel Salas

I am physicist and electrical engineer. My knowledge in computer software and hardware stems for my years spent doing research in optics and photonics devices and running simulations through various programming languages. My goal was to work for the quantum computing research team at IBM but Im now working with Astrophysical Simulations through Python. Most of the science related posts are written by me, the rest have different authors but I edited the final versions to fit the site's format.

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